To
select appropriate items from the Cabinet Board agenda for Pre-Decision
Scrutiny (Cabinet Board reports included for Scrutiny Members)
Minutes:
The Committee chose to
scrutinise the following Cabinet Board items:
Establishing a Managed
Account and Payroll Support Framework
The Committee were
provided with a report which was seeking approval to undertake a process to establish
a Framework of approved providers, who would be able to appropriately support
Direct Payment recipients with Managed Account and Payroll activity.
Members queried what the
current waiting time was to change accounts from managed to direct payments, or
vice versa. It was confirmed that this takes very little time and was not an
issue for Officers within the Directorate. The Head of Adult Services mentioned
that the issue with direct payments was relating to obtaining a Personal
Assistant (PA).
Officers were asked to
provide information relating to the current waiting times for assessments for
direct payments, and how long it takes for a PA to be found and matched with a
service user. It was noted that the service was up to speed with the assessments,
however it was difficult to provide a definitive timescale of the waiting
times. The Committee were informed that there was an issue in trying to obtain
PA’s in the first instance; this was the same across all forms of care,
including residential and domiciliary care. It was added that part of the
delay, if there was a delay, was pertaining to Disclosure and Barring Service
(DBS) checks, putting training in place and where insurance was required.
Following scrutiny, the
Committee was supportive of the proposal to be considered by the Cabinet Board
Procurement of a
Specialist Domiciliary Care Framework
Officers delivered a
report for Members to consider approval to undertake the process to establish a
Framework of domiciliary care providers, who would be able to appropriately
deliver specialist domiciliary care and use this Framework to purchase
individual packages of specialist domiciliary care.
The circulated report
highlighted that this framework will include providing mental health care;
Members asked if this included those with dementia. Officers explained that the
Directorate had a routine framework that was already in place for the older age
group (over 65’s); this framework was applied to the individuals in this age
group who had age related frailty, dementia and/or disabilities.
Members were informed
that the report before them was in relation to an additional, specialist
framework which would apply to working age groups, and children and young
people; this framework will assist those with learning disabilities and mental
health, as well as providing a range of children and young people services.
It was detailed in the
circulated report that presently the number of adults with complex needs
receiving specialist domiciliary care in their own home was relatively low;
Members queried why the numbers were so low, and asked if the data collection
on domiciliary care would improve in the future. Officers explained that there
was currently a small number of people with learning disabilities and mental
health that receive domiciliary care in their own homes; a lot of people with
learning disabilities and mental health currently live in supported living
accommodations or specialist care homes, therefore the demand for specialist
domiciliary care wasn’t as high.
Further to the above, it
was mentioned that there would be wider options available for individuals by
developing the framework. Officers highlighted that they were currently trying
to support and enable people to live by themselves in their own homes with a package
of domiciliary care; this work falls into the other work Officers were going to
give and promote independence.
Officers stated that if
the specialist framework was in place, they would be able to obtain better
data, as the packages would go through the framework which would enable more
data to be collected.
Following scrutiny, the
Committee was supportive of the proposal to be considered by the Cabinet Board.
Uplift To Older People
Care Home Fees
A report was provided in
relation to an uplift to fees in order to support the sustainability of older
people care home services in Neath Port Talbot.
Members made reference
to the uplift fee of £30 per person, per week, and asked if Officers were
expecting this to change due to the current cost of living crisis.
The Director of Social
Services, Health and Housing confirmed that they were anticipating that the
fees will need to be risen in the future; this will depend on the outcome of
the next few months in regards to the cost of living crisis, however Officers
were continuing to review this. It was added that this report was the first
step of an uplift programme that will need to put in place over the coming
years.
Further clarity was
provided in that the uplift fee detailed in the circulated report was for the
current financial year. It was noted that Officers undertook an exercise to
look at the fee levels for this financial year; however from the beginning of
April 2022 to now, there had been a lot of factors that could not have been
predicted, that have directly impacted on the financial viability of care
homes. Following this, it was explained that Officers carried out a detailed
piece of work with the care home sector to review the financial pressures that
they were facing; it was identified that they needed an extra £30 this
financial year to be viable. Officers added that they were currently trying to
identify what the fees should look like for the next financial year of 2023/24;
given the current inflation, they expect there to be a significant uplift next
financial year.
Reference was made to
the current fees paid to older people care homes; Members queried the little
difference between what was currently paid to residential care homes, and what
was currently paid to nursing care homes, given the difference in the type of
work they undertake. Officer clarified that the amount contained within the
circulated report was the fee that the Council would pay to nursing homes;
there was also a Funding Nursing Care (FNC) fee in which the Health Board pays
for, on top of the amount provided by the Council. It was concluded that the
overall fee for a nursing home payment was higher than that amount detailed in
the report circulated report; as it only detailed the uplift and the amount
that Social Services contribute.
A brief discussion took
place in regards to the fees that families pay towards care homes, and what
would happen if a family was not in a position to pay for the additional
charges going forward. The Head of Adult Services confirmed that this was referred
to as a third party top up; most care homes were now charging a top up fee,
with the average being around £65. It was explained that this was due to care
homes claiming that they weren’t being paid enough to cover the costs; where
families could not afford to pay this, and where the service were placing
people care in homes, The Council were paying the top up fee. Members were
informed that increasing uplift fees, could assist with moving away from the
top up fee; families would therefore not have to contribute financially towards
the care home.
Following scrutiny, the
Committee was supportive of the proposal to be considered by the Cabinet Board.