Agenda item

Pre-Scrutiny

Minutes:

The Committee scrutinised the following matters:

 

Cabinet Board Proposals

 

4.1    Western Bay Pooled Fund for Care Homes Options Paper

 

The Committee received information in relation to the Western Bay Pooled Fund for Care Homes as contained within the circulated report.

 

Members asked for clarification on the term ‘cross-subsidisation’ and were informed that it is basically a legal process whereby Neath Port Talbot tax payers’ money does not integrate into other Local Authority areas.

 

Members were concerned that the report included different opinions and views from AM’s and the Welsh Government but were informed that there had been ongoing negotiations and that views have progressed and developed and Members were pleased to note that the Minister was now in agreement with the proposal at this stage.

 

The Committee discussed the potential situation of Bridgend leaving the Health Board area and the impact that this could have. Members noted that it would have an effect on market balance and commissioning priorities but it was noted that if Bridgend do withdraw there will be no risk to the financial position of the Council in relation to the option recommended in this report.

 

Members asked for clarification on the statement that ‘…initially the pooled fund will not apply to placements made under s117 or in relation to care home services specialising in functional mental health where older persons may reside.’ Officers stated that they will circulate an explanation to Members.

 

Members asked for clarification on the abbreviations FNC and CHC. Officers explained FNC is Funded Nursing Care and CHC is Community Health Care. Members were concerned about the repetition of abbreviations (such as LAC standing for both Local Area Coordinator and Looked after Children).

 

Members asked for an update on the creation of a common contract to standardise contract terms and conditions across the four organisations which was scheduled for completion by April 2018. Officers explained work was still ongoing but the contract is nearing completion.

 

The Committee noted the plan to create a shared methodology but not a shared rate and asked if the difference in rates would reflect local differences in need. It was explained that the methodology is agreed with providers as to how to set and agree rates and that fees are different to reflect geographic differences.

 

 

 

 

 

Members noted that the Council must reach a position of compliance and that the option presented in the report allows the Council to cooperate with the requirements set out.

 

Members stated that in the assessment chart for the options set out for consideration in the report no option provided optimum results. It was noted that evaluation would be ongoing in partnership with Welsh Government as the project progresses.

 

Members noted the positive aspects of pooled budgets such as aligned commissioning and freeing up of budgets.

 

Following scrutiny, the committee were supportive of the proposals to be considered at Cabinet Board.

 

4.3    Update on the Commissioning Strategy for Care Homes for Older People: Neath Port Talbot Implementation Plan 2016/2019 and the Older Persons Residential Care Homes in Neath Port Talbot Report

 

          The Committee received information in relation to the Update on the Commissioning Strategy for Care Home for Older People as contained within the circulated report.

Members asked if the Market Position Statement of June 2017 be circulated.

 

The Committee asked for further information in relation to the Regional Quality Framework. They were informed that there are annual joint monitoring visits in partnership with ABMU and feedback is assessed and provided.

 

The Committee asked how well the early indicators that identify concerns at care homes are working. Officers explained they are working very well and that issues are being identified before they escalate. Members looked forward to receiving further information on this data as it becomes available.

 

          Members noted that the establishment of a Nurse Recruitment protocol is ongoing.

 

          Members noted that the Escalating Concerns Policy was a regional framework developed to support and overcome issues by early identification.

 

          Members asked for further information on ‘Patient Flow Interface Groups’. They discussed the creation of patient led groups in and out of hospital discharge ensuring that processes were monitored and fit for purpose.

 

Members commented that the map that illustrates the spread of care homes across Neath Port Talbot may not be accurate and agreed that a grid image may be a better way to see the information. Officers agreed to re consider the information represented on the map.

 

Following scrutiny it was agreed that the report be noted.