Agenda item

Pre-Scrutiny

Minutes:

The Committee scrutinised the following matters:

 

Cabinet Board Proposals

 

6.1     Neath Port Talbot Local Authority Education Services for Children and Young people Self Evaluation

 

          The Committee received information of the self-evaluation work undertaken by Education Services in regard to the Local Authority Education Services for Children and Young People (LAESCYP), as detailed in the circulated report.

 

          Members were provided with an overview of the key services provided by Education, Leisure and Lifelong Learning Services and how it aligns with guidance issued by Estyn and the future development of those services. Members were presented with the background and key information in the report, which focused on the main strengths and areas of development for Neath Port Talbot. It was highlighted that Neath Port Talbot had high levels of Free School Meals pupils, the second highest levels of deprivation in Wales and above average of Special Education Needs pupils. Despite this, Neath Port Talbot currently performed well at Key Stage 4 and were ranked 11th in Wales, which was an outstanding feature of the performance of the Service. It was noted that Key Stage 4 was the end product of the whole school career of pupils. Neath Port Talbot Free School Meal pupils outperform the national average by 3%. It was highlighted that there had been an improvement in attendance, particularly at primary school level.

 

It was highlighted that one area that Estyn would consider during inspections was resource management and value for money and the level of investment against outcomes. Members queried by some Local Authorities provide higher than average funding per pupil. Officers noted that the areas that tend to do this had previously had poor outcomes and intervention by Estyn and therefore had to invest in those services.

 

          Members noted that there was a large increase in the number of pupils with Special Educational Needs (SEN) over the last three years and if there was any specific reason for this. Officers informed Members that there was a range of reasons, which included improved  provision for SEN pupils and some higher level cases that previously been educated out of County now being able to have their needs met in County.

 

          Members highlighted that for pupils that English was an Additional Language there were 59 first/home languages spoken which seemed a high number and asked how this compared with other Local Authorities, such as Cardiff and Swansea. Officers informed Members that Cardiff, Newport and Swansea had the highest numbers of home languages spoken and Neath Port Talbot ranked 12th.

 

          Members highlighted that under strengths on page 27of the report noted that ‘Governors receive useful advice when recruiting senior leaders within their schools’ and felt that it should be reworded to read ‘Governors receive useful advice from challenge advisers when recruiting senior leaders within their schools’. Officers would make this amendment.

 

          Members asked how long it would take for the evaluation of the impact on school closures to be undertaken. Officers explained that the evaluation was ongoing and every time a school closure was undertaken an impact assessment evaluation was also undertaken. Members noted that 61% of pupils attended named school as expected after the closure of schools and queried what happened to the other 39% of pupils. Officers explained that those pupils would have attended a different school of their choice. It was noted that there were a few examples of pupils attending schools outside of the  County Borough.

 

          The Committee highlighted that there was provision to replace Dyffryn School and queried if both the Upper and Lower Schools were going to be replaced, especially as Dyffryn Upper school was only 52 years old. Officers confirmed that both the Lower and Upper Dyffryn School would be replaced by the new Ysgol Newedd Margam and the Upper School land would become the playing fields for the new school.

 

          Members expressed concerned over the amount of funding delegated to schools, particularly at primary school level, and queried if there were any plans to remedy this situation. Officers clarified that  for primary schools it was the funding per pupil that was lower. It was highlighted that some primary schools had indicated  that they did not want delegation of funding for areas such as catering and felt that there needed to be more concentration on improving standards. It was highlighted that delegation rates were in line with Welsh Government expectations.

 

          Members noted that nearly all schools buy into the Authority’s Service Level Agreements (SLAs) and queried what was the actual number of schools and what steps were being taken in order to make it 100%. Officers explained that  it was 90% of schools and there were a few schools that did not take up SLAs for ground maintenance and Music Services. Officers would be discussing this further with those schools.

 

          Members asked for the comparison data for the YP-CORE levels of psychological distress pre and post interventions. Officers would find out this information and circulate it to the Committee. It was highlighted that Education Services and Children and Young People Services were looking at how to develop their own mental health services as the Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services (CAMHS) was not reliable.

 

Members asked if incidents of bullying were recorded and if there was a programme in place to tackle it. Officers confirmed that there was a programme in place and the report highlighted that at secondary school 90% of pupils felt that their school deals well with bullying (7% higher than the national average).

 

          Members noted the positive figures for sport involvement and asked if there was any data regarding how they were tackling childhood obesity. Officers would look at what information was available and bring a report to a future meeting.

 

          Following Scrutiny, it was agreed that the report noted.

         

 

6.2     Neath Port Talbot Local Authority Education Development Service Delivery Plan

 

          The Committee received information of the Education Delivery Plan by the Education Improvement Team giving an overview of the key priorities provided and how it aligns with Regional ERW Business Plan, as detailed within the circulated report.

         

          Members were informed of the priorities for the Service and the milestones throughout the year. It was noted that for Priority Two – Teaching and Learning - leadership was a key element and there were a high percentage of good leaders in Neath Port Talbot schools. The Service was now considering how to best develop middle leadership. Members noted that there had been a misconception that Estyn did not like the ERW set up. Officers explained that it took some time to bring six Local Authorities together and the region was now working well and the Neath Port Talbot and Swansea Hub performance was strong.

 

For Priority One, Members queried how the Service was developing an integrated approach to ensure consistently high quality teaching and learning within Welsh, English and Mathematic lessons across all key stages. Officers informed the Committee that  part of it was to ensure consistency of training across the region and sharing practices across the region.  Where possible schools with similar issues were paired up to best support each other.

 

          The Committee noted that there seemed to be a link missing with Governors and queried how Governors could be further involved. It was noted that Governors should receive relevant information from their headteachers. In addition the Service was considering how to develop online training. It was highlighted Scrutiny Members in City and County of Swansea had undertaken a piece of work into school governors and the report would be circulated to the Committee for information. 

 

          Following Scrutiny, it was agreed that the report noted.

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