Agenda and draft minutes

Joint Cabinet and Education, Skills and Culture Scrutiny Committee - Wednesday, 9th May, 2018 9.30 am

Venue: Council Chamber - Port Talbot Civic Centre. View directions

No. Item


Appointment of Chairperson


Agreed that Councillor A. N. Woolcock be appointed Chairperson for the meeting.





The Committee chose to scrutinise the following Cabinet items:


Cabinet Proposals


2.1     The Report of Her Majesty's Inspectorate for Education and Training in Wales (Estyn) on Neath Port Talbot County Borough Council


Members received a brief overview of the Report of Her Majesty’s Inspectorate for Education and Training in Wales (Estyn) on Neath Port Talbot County Borough Council, as detailed in the circulated report.


Members thanked the inspectors for the report as it reflects hard working. It was asked what the number of primary schools that have had to be placed in a statutory category. It was noted that the link inspectors would have discussed those aspects with the Director of Education and the team; there has been support that has been put in, however it has not been effective. The inspector referred the members to the report on the local consortium. It was noted that in an ideal world you would know the issues before Estyn comes in for an inspection and then there is no surprise if a school was to go into special measures.


Members asked why in the report it is detailed that Neath Port Talbot are not performing as well as other schools. It was highlighted in the report that one way of monitoring performance is through the report card system, it was highlighted although there are issues in Primary School, there is an improvement in Secondary Schools. It was highlighted that Members need to recognise the positives that were highlighted in the report such as leadership and management. In the report it is noted that the chief highlighted that the officers know their schools well. It was noted that the challenge process also involves members as they are on governor bodies.


Members asked where Neath Port Talbot Schools need additional support. It was noted that it was difficult to say as a whole, and members were directed to the individual inspector reports as they would include more information.


Members asked in relation to the Primary School Outcomes, the relationship between the role of ERW and the Estyn report. It was noted that Estyn are there to inspect and improve schools. It was noted that they could not comment for ERW, but referred members to the inspection report on ERW.


Members queried that the high deprivation was an area of challenge and asked for comments from the challenge advisors. It was noted that there was high deprivation and that it needed to be taken into account when looking at data. However, Members were referred to the judgement for Neath Port Talbot which was overall good.


Members asked whether Estyn had seen any trends or other techniques that other counties that the Authority could benefit from. It was noted that in previous cycles, some counties did well In Primary and not so well in Secondary. It was noted that in 2017 neets had decreased to 2.6%. The Director of Education highlighted that they are aiming for a 0% neets.


Members asked why the Authority is  ...  view the full minutes text for item 2.